<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6025878547150944281.post2704187581020794589..comments</id><updated>2009-07-06T23:05:21.024+05:30</updated><category term='the hindu'/><category term='indicators'/><category term='cluesmithy'/><category term='beginners'/><category term='uk crosswords'/><category term='blog info'/><category term='tools'/><category term='crossword twists'/><category term='evaluation'/><category term='words'/><category term='setters'/><category term='contests'/><category term='books'/><category term='wordplay'/><category term='guest posts'/><category term='solve these'/><category term='interviews'/><category term='humour'/><category term='trivia'/><category term='clue types'/><category term='solutions'/><category term='mint'/><category term='ditto'/><category term='grid'/><title type='text'>Comments on Crossword Unclued: The Cockney H</title><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.crosswordunclued.com/feeds/2704187581020794589/comments/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6025878547150944281/2704187581020794589/comments/default'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.crosswordunclued.com/2009/05/cockney-h.html'/><author><name>Shuchi</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01255928672885834649</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_nSevIC7GzYM/S4OteoflOvI/AAAAAAAAA6E/CSxPhocjHaI/S220/crossword-unclued-125x125.PNG'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>3</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>25</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6025878547150944281.post-128777657500524429</id><published>2009-07-06T22:21:48.630+05:30</published><updated>2009-07-06T22:21:48.630+05:30</updated><title type='text'>The example you took &amp;#39;aitch - hetch&amp;#39; could...</title><content type='html'>The example you took &amp;#39;aitch - hetch&amp;#39; could be the only case in adding H in Tamil accent?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As for homophones based on Indian accent, I think it would be too complicated, especially because of the way different Indain laguages spell the words in English differently.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;e.g.: word &amp;#39;Tamil&amp;#39;.&lt;br /&gt;In Tamil, the last letter l, is a &amp;#39;strong l&amp;#39;. As for as I know the &amp;#39;strong l&amp;#39; exists only in 3 langauges, Tamil, Malayalam and Marathi. It&amp;#39;s not in Hindi, nor in Sansrkit. It&amp;#39;s &amp;quot;ळ&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;And Tamils pronounce Tamil as &amp;quot;तमिळ&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;For &amp;quot;त&amp;quot; they use &amp;quot;Th&amp;quot;. And for the &amp;#39;strong l&amp;#39; (ळ), they use &amp;#39;zh&amp;#39;&lt;br /&gt;So in Tamil the correct spelling of Tamil would be &amp;#39;Thamizh&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;(now am not sure about &amp;#39;i&amp;#39; or &amp;#39;ee&amp;#39;, but it would be either Thamizh or Thameezh). &lt;br /&gt;Malayalis also use zh for &amp;#39;ळ&amp;#39;; while Maharashrians don&amp;#39;t bother, they use just  &amp;#39;l&amp;#39;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For &amp;#39;त&amp;#39; all South Indian langauges use &amp;#39;Th&amp;#39;. So extra &amp;#39;h&amp;#39;?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But for &amp;#39;श&amp;#39; they don&amp;#39;t use &amp;#39;Sh&amp;#39;, but only &amp;#39;s&amp;#39;. &amp;#39;शीवा&amp;#39; is spelled as &amp;#39;Siva&amp;#39; not as &amp;#39;Shiva&amp;#39;. So dropping &amp;#39;h&amp;#39;? &lt;br /&gt;&amp;#39;Sh&amp;#39; is used for &amp;#39;ष&amp;#39;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Bengalis pronounce Mutter as &amp;#39;Motor&amp;#39;. I had seen in a restaurant in Kolkata, Mutter Paneer spelled as &amp;#39;Motor paneer&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That&amp;#39;s why I feel using homophones based on Indian accents would be really too complicated.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6025878547150944281/2704187581020794589/comments/default/128777657500524429'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6025878547150944281/2704187581020794589/comments/default/128777657500524429'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.crosswordunclued.com/2009/05/cockney-h.html?showComment=1246899108630#c128777657500524429' title=''/><author><name>Aim</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03625889810188964652</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.crosswordunclued.com/2009/05/cockney-h.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6025878547150944281.post-2704187581020794589' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6025878547150944281/posts/default/2704187581020794589' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-301940675'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6025878547150944281.post-3483540113440024005</id><published>2009-05-08T07:17:00.000+05:30</published><updated>2009-05-08T07:17:00.000+05:30</updated><title type='text'>In the Tamil accent, doesn't opposite happen - an ...</title><content type='html'>In the Tamil accent, doesn't opposite happen - an H is pronounced even where it is silent? At least, when a word is spelt out, any 'aitch' in it is pronounced as 'hetch'.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I wonder why The Hindu doesn't carry homophones based on Indian accents. Maybe it'll come across as mockery so our compilers play safe? Hmmm...I don't see many denizens of Bihar taking kindly to a clue about Bihari soot {~SHOOT}.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6025878547150944281/2704187581020794589/comments/default/3483540113440024005'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6025878547150944281/2704187581020794589/comments/default/3483540113440024005'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.crosswordunclued.com/2009/05/cockney-h.html?showComment=1241747220000#c3483540113440024005' title=''/><author><name>Shuchi</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01255928672885834649</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.crosswordunclued.com/2009/05/cockney-h.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6025878547150944281.post-2704187581020794589' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6025878547150944281/posts/default/2704187581020794589' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-1765335024'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6025878547150944281.post-8531421551883344180</id><published>2009-05-07T15:58:00.000+05:30</published><updated>2009-05-07T15:58:00.000+05:30</updated><title type='text'>Traditionally, a true cockney is someone who was b...</title><content type='html'>Traditionally, a true cockney is someone who was born within the sound of the Bow Bells (the bells of the church of St Mary le Bow in the City of London). &lt;br /&gt;So 'Bow' in a clue could be an indication for the dropping of 'h'.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6025878547150944281/2704187581020794589/comments/default/8531421551883344180'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6025878547150944281/2704187581020794589/comments/default/8531421551883344180'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.crosswordunclued.com/2009/05/cockney-h.html?showComment=1241692080000#c8531421551883344180' title=''/><author><name>Chaturvasi</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00284780490945841507</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='33' height='16' src='http://bp0.blogger.com/_cekE3wMl0pI/R-5hwsb2C7I/AAAAAAAAAAM/fJPRELoV2AY/S220/10823233cgrlogo.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.crosswordunclued.com/2009/05/cockney-h.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6025878547150944281.post-2704187581020794589' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6025878547150944281/posts/default/2704187581020794589' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-195702551'/></entry></feed>
