<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6025878547150944281.post8182844097884206297..comments</id><updated>2009-09-18T19:07:49.468+05:30</updated><title type='text'>Comments on Crossword Unclued: The Hindu Crossword 9639: Neyartha</title><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.crosswordunclued.com/feeds/8182844097884206297/comments/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6025878547150944281/8182844097884206297/comments/default'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.crosswordunclued.com/2009/09/hindu-crossword-9639-neyartha.html'/><author><name>Shuchi</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01255928672885834649</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>2</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>25</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6025878547150944281.post-3368639649989653761</id><published>2009-09-18T01:42:58.937+05:30</published><updated>2009-09-18T01:42:58.937+05:30</updated><title type='text'>Shuchi, Thanks for your very constructive criticis...</title><content type='html'>Shuchi, Thanks for your very constructive criticism. Your note about the &amp;#39;ZUARI&amp;#39; telescopic clue is valid. It was a toss up between the published clue and &amp;quot;Iguazu aristocrats hide this (5)&amp;quot;, and I chose to go with the former despite the fact that the wordplay isn&amp;#39;t quite legal for the simple fact that it gave a better surface reading.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A couple of points regarding your observations:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1. My personal opinion is that a connector&amp;#39;s purpose is to aid in surface reading and anything is fine as long as it doesn&amp;#39;t interfere with the wordplay / alter the inference of the wordplay. For obtaining the direct definition, a connector may or may not be dropped in the analysis. This may be frowned upon in UK publications, but I believe it gives one more degree of freedom to the compiler in order to mislead the solver within accepted bounds. The definition of &amp;#39;accepted bounds&amp;#39; may vary from person to person, but looking at the fact that many lay people are able to solve the clue without issues and the connectors are easily identifiable (by / a / that etc.), I feel there is little incentive for me to change the clueing style.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;2. Flowers of sulphur and surface reading: Not sure whether you are aware of this, but &amp;#39;flowers of sulphur&amp;#39; is a form of sulphur powder used in agriculture ( http://en.allexperts.com/q/Agriculture-2377/Flowers-Sulphur.htm ), and the clue&amp;#39;s surface reading indicates that there might be an electrical switch inside a cave shrine, behind which sulphur powder might be found.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I also thank Vinod for his feedback. I regard braces in cryptic clues as punctuation marks which need to be ignored most of the time (This is the scheme followed in many UK puzzles too, I believe). In that way, it is similar to the comma that Vinod prefers. The comment about usage of by / with as connectors is valid when it is in the middle of the wordplay. In the clue under consideration, the connector appears after the wordplay segment (and doesn&amp;#39;t interfere with it). This leads to the first point I made above in my observations above.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Best Regards&lt;br /&gt;Neyartha</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6025878547150944281/8182844097884206297/comments/default/3368639649989653761'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6025878547150944281/8182844097884206297/comments/default/3368639649989653761'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.crosswordunclued.com/2009/09/hindu-crossword-9639-neyartha.html?showComment=1253218378937#c3368639649989653761' title=''/><author><name>Neyartha</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.crosswordunclued.com/2009/09/hindu-crossword-9639-neyartha.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6025878547150944281.post-8182844097884206297' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6025878547150944281/posts/default/8182844097884206297' type='text/html'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6025878547150944281.post-1066615229906052051</id><published>2009-09-17T16:05:49.881+05:30</published><updated>2009-09-17T16:05:49.881+05:30</updated><title type='text'>I echo most of your comments. I have some more obs...</title><content type='html'>I echo most of your comments. I have some more observations :-&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;5D Fish (new) exchanged for a second grade instrument (4) &lt;br /&gt;Since &amp;#39;new&amp;#39; is in braces, the clue doesn&amp;#39;t adequately indicate that &amp;#39;new&amp;#39; is to be exchanged. It seems like Fish is to be exchanged for B. &amp;quot;Fish, new, exchanged...&amp;quot; would work much better. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;To add to your comment on &amp;quot;by&amp;quot; not being a fair connector, I feel that &amp;quot;by&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;with&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;on&amp;quot; etc. are not good connectors between the Definition and Subsidiary indication, because they make it seem like the text preceding and following them are to be conjoined in some manner.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6025878547150944281/8182844097884206297/comments/default/1066615229906052051'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6025878547150944281/8182844097884206297/comments/default/1066615229906052051'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.crosswordunclued.com/2009/09/hindu-crossword-9639-neyartha.html?showComment=1253183749881#c1066615229906052051' title=''/><author><name>Vinod Raman</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06729979585523456091</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.crosswordunclued.com/2009/09/hindu-crossword-9639-neyartha.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6025878547150944281.post-8182844097884206297' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6025878547150944281/posts/default/8182844097884206297' type='text/html'/></entry></feed>